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Episode Twenty: The Endless Entertainment of Costume Jewelry

• Gaster Girls • Season 2 • Episode 6

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Join Sarah and Christine in this special 20th episode of the Mental Funny Bone podcast, where they share nostalgic memories of their youth, including childhood playtimes, family traditions, and humorous stories. They candidly discuss their ongoing mental health challenges, the ups and downs of maintaining healthy habits, and offer listener shoutouts. Get ready for an unfiltered, heartfelt, and entertaining episode filled with laughter and insightful reflections.

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Sarah:

Hello and welcome to the Mental Funny Bone, Becoming the Gaster Girls. I'm Sarah.

Chris:

And I'm Christine. A big part of this podcast is discussing mental health, but please know we are by no means licensed mental health professionals. If that is why you are here, you are doing it wrong again. we do have a whole list of medical, wait, licensed mental health professionals who are available to help you out. Check out the links in our show notes. Until then, take care. We will entertain you, with stories of our youth and our own mental health challenges. Welcome.

Sarah:

Oh my gosh. I didn't, the first thing they, the audience will hear is not me saying, Motherfuck Christine.

Chris:

I don't, apparently what it takes to learn how to do an introduction is 20 episodes.

Sarah:

Yep. Yep. On the 20th, we'll get it right. Welcome to the 20th episode. Thank you. Yeah.

Chris:

just FYI, if you guys are our weekly listeners, then you know that last week was a little bit challenging. for us, I think what we should do is count the number of F words in the episode and that is our challenge rating. Like the number of times we have to say fuck during an episode should be indicative of how challenging it was to get it together. I feel last week that we talked every day, that we could possibly talk and we talked a lot. about, the, everything that happened. as a result, this week may be a slightly shorter episode, than you guys are used to. Also, we were not great at Atomic Habits this week. I was not great at Atomic Habits. You might have been greater at Atomic Habits, but, I think what we're gonna do is just, is just recognize and, and talk about that when we get to it. Sarah's nodding her head. It's an audio thing.

Sarah:

Yeah. Yeah. No, I just thought, yeah.

Chris:

okay.

Sarah:

I'm just concurring. You're the leader, so you have to tell me what you want me to do.

Chris:

nothing. I'm gonna jump right into fan mail. So we got a, we got an email from Rudy again, Rudy P. and everything that really does is just delightful. he told us about going to school the next day and telling the jokes about the challenge or disaster that I referenced and Rudy took it a step further. and he said that it was a good idea that I did not do that on the podcast because it did not go over well. So Rudy, thanks for reaching out. It's always great to hear from you. We can't wait to see your next Jeep adventure. and not just because you're going to give us a shout out. If you never mentioned us again, we would still like to see what you and that Jeep are up to.

Sarah:

So check Rudy out on YouTube, Jeeps and Eats.

Chris:

Jeeps and eats. There you go.

Sarah:

in a little lull right now because he's, his cameraman, had to take a sabbatical.

Chris:

vacation, fell down a set of stairs, something. I'm making stuff

Sarah:

really hope it wasn't down the stairs. That's terrible.

Chris:

I don't know.

Sarah:

oh. And we should also say that this week is a little crazy and, we're going to be releasing this with a very little editing. yeah,

Chris:

You get what you get and you don't get upset this week.

Sarah:

Yeah. That's

Chris:

Um, There you go. All right. do you want to talk about Rick? Did I put that in there? Or did you

Sarah:

No, I did. I did. I just wanted to, send a shout out to Rick Z, for sending an email or a few emails to us and, just continuing to listen. So thanks Rick. Keep it up. Thanks for the email. so Rudy and Rick, you guys are it for the week. We love you. Rudy and Rick, the R's, double R's, and I would like

Chris:

buddy cop show. Rudy and

Sarah:

Rudy and Rick. What would their dog name be? Because they'd have to have a dog, right? Yeah, because that's exactly what everybody would find. Rudy, Rick, and Esteban. the common dog. Anyway,

Chris:

Oh,

Sarah:

I would also like to take this, time, opportunity, to shame the rest of you for not emailing us.

Chris:

yeah, what's wrong guys? Come

Sarah:

Yeah,

Chris:

like we don't beg

Sarah:

gmail. com. It's pretty simple. Lots of G's in there. Gastergirls at gmail. com.

Chris:

Come on guys.

Sarah:

There you go. Oh, I hear a cat. Hey, speaking of, do you hear this? Noah's out in the living room, kitchen, whatever. He's listening to the music and I decided, I want to do an episode that is dedicated to misheard lyrics.

Chris:

I love it. Yes. Yes.

Sarah:

Currently, the song that was on is a Chris Stapleton song, I believe the name of it is Parachute. And the line is, I'll be your parachute. And I thought for the very longest time that he was saying, I'll be your pair of shoes. I thought that was equally wonderful. I would love for you to be my pair of shoes. Parachute might make a little more sense.

Chris:

to this day, I'm not sure what the lyrics to Desperado really are.

Sarah:

Eldorado.

Chris:

I, is that what it is? I have no idea. I don't know.

Sarah:

No, it's definitely Desperado, but that's how I have to, when I'm given the opportunity to say Yosemite, I have to stop and say it in my head. Is it Yosemite or is it Yosemite? It's definitely Yosemite. So that's what I have to do for Eldorado. Desperado.

Chris:

What is it? all right. So let's catch up. Let's go to a weekly catch up corner. so I watched more Olympics after we talked about the Olympics. I can't. I can't stop. I want to watch handball. Handball, which I thought we already had a sport like this called basketball, but this one is different because the goal is on the floor. but you're, it's, it's an amazingly hard sport and I was frustrated and bored about 15 minutes into it and yet I watched the entire episode. what's it called? Game. I was like, what? All she does is run up there and then stand still because she can't get around that girl. They should make this easier.

Sarah:

Yeah. It's a very little court too. It's like a tiny court. And then there's these, I just watched the dudes play. So there's like these ginormous goalies and I feel like they all look like middle aged dads. The goalies.

Chris:

right. Like every they're wearing white shoes.

Sarah:

Yeah. I'm not talking shit. Like they're in the Olympics. Do your thing. But that's what I thought of.

Chris:

yep, exactly. Handball. I can't get enough of it in my life right now, the day after the closing ceremony. It really has no purpose.

Sarah:

Depression, like that's what I was reading a little bit from our, our friend Ricky Gervais. No, that's not his name.

Chris:

That's it.

Sarah:

one of his little newsletters and it was, the guest he was having on his podcast, Michael Gervais. That's what his name is.

Chris:

Not Ricky.

Sarah:

and they were going to talk about, post Olympic depression, which is absolutely a thing, but I would say more for the actual I think for us, we should be able to work through it pretty easily.

Chris:

Yeah, I'll be okay by tonight when I've I'll be alright by later on tonight when I'm like, Oh, I can watch Dateline. A Dateline, NA Dateline. There's no requirement for me to watch the Olympics now, and I'll feel free about it. Oh, you know who's gonna be, depressed? Jordan Chiles.

Sarah:

What a segue into that. Who

Chris:

Right? Folks, that is hell. That is done. Ugh.

Sarah:

burn. I feel bad for everybody in that situation. That's a terrible fucking situation. And whoever the people in charge who fucked it up, it's terrible. It's terrible.

Chris:

somebody needs to go and punch somebody else in the neck. Clearly.

Sarah:

think they both get, I think you give them both bronze medals. I don't, I feel like you, you let one stand on the podium and you put it around her neck. I feel like she, no give backs.

Chris:

no, you already, and the one girl that was crying and was real upset after she lost it, everybody gets a medal. Don't, nobody be sad. Nobody be sad. For 15 minutes, I had a medal. I would just put that on a t shirt and tell everybody.

Sarah:

Yeah. She should do something with that. She should do something. I hope she has a good agent who will get shirts out there. I think that's valid. I also, I'm going to continue to look up, interviews with Emma Hayes.

Chris:

I did not, I thought my favorite person at the Olympics was Snoop Dogg, but it is not. My favorite person at the Olympics is motherfucking Emma Hayes.

Sarah:

I really want Emma Hayes and I actually, I changed my vote for president. I changed it from Snoop Dogg and Martha to, Snoop Dogg and Emma Hayes.

Chris:

I don't know.

Sarah:

Yeah. Martha can be like in the cabinet or some shit, but

Chris:

no, Emma Hayes, Secretary of Defense.

Sarah:

Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. We can Emma Hayes has got to get in there somewhere.

Chris:

we'll get that General Mattis guy who was there before and then, he can be like the mentor to Emma Hayes. I feel like this will be a fantastic system of government. Wait. she wasn't born in the US though.

Sarah:

It's fine. It's fine. The U S made her, the U

Chris:

okay. Yeah. Yeah. She said

Sarah:

As long as she said, yeah, it works for everybody else. Just say it. And it's true. It's fine.

Chris:

Don't worry about it. tell me about your interviews, because I've only seen like the ones after the gold medal match where the United States won a gold medal in women's soccer,

Sarah:

Yeah. And Oh yeah. I guess we should say for those of you who don't. No, who am I? He's his, she's the women's soccer coach. and she's like amazing. Cause she just came in. she's only been working with the team for a very short amount of time. and she's just a badass bitch. she made some decisions prior to the Olympics that a lot of people were not happy with. I applauded them and thought they were great decisions personally. yeah, so I feel like she's killing it. the one today that I read about that's slightly controversial is her making the statement that I want them to suffer. No,

Chris:

about the other team and beating them.

Sarah:

no.

Chris:

oh man. What, was she talking about her own team? Tell me more. My god. I might like it more now.

Sarah:

so I don't know if you watched any of the games, you would have heard Julie Fowdy bitch about how Emma Hayes was not making any subs and the lack of fresh legs and yada,

Chris:

Oh my god, yes, cause she would not shut up. Two days

Sarah:

I was like, can you please just, okay, we get it. We heard you the first 28 bazillion times, Julie, we get it. You're great. You are great. We love you. We loved watching you, but can you just, can you stop about the legs and the subs and blah, blah, blah. So I guess, more people were asking her about that and, she made the statement. Yeah. I want them to suffer. It's And it's basically a statement of, this is how you earn things, and this is how you get through things. You're not in this game for five minutes, and then you're like, yeah, I think I'll come out. this is the starting. these are your starting eleven. You want them to play the whole game. You want them to get to the, you want them, to be fatigued. They work for it and they need to work through that. So there's a lot of different, there's a lot of different, but I heard Carly Lloyd talk about it and I wish I would have had her exactly what she said. because she's all for it, which, and I love Carly Lloyd too. She's a bit much sometimes in her criticism, but,

Chris:

A bit

Sarah:

yeah. And I think maybe people just see that I want them to suffer and I don't think that's really what, you She really, truly meant, but she wants them to work for it. And she wants them, this is what it's about. It's about pushing through those tough times. And it's about you're in the Olympic gold medal match,

Chris:

right. You've

Sarah:

it.

Chris:

it's about, I think it's about earning that spot in that top 11 and being like, I earned my spot here. So unless I am messing things up to an extent where we cannot recover, then Emma Hayes has the idea that there's chemistry and there's strategy and tactics involved with keeping that lineup the same. And the only way you're going to figure out how to get through a whole 90 minute game is playing a 90 minute game.

Sarah:

And I think, it, I think she showed, I forget which game was it, China or was it Germany? I can't remember. Might've, I can't remember, but, in extra time, she took out Lindsey Horan. Yeah, it was Germany because this is the game I wanted to talk about last week. Cause I wanted to talk about her taking out Lindsey Horan because I was excited about her taking out Lindsey Horan. Like I, I'm, I love her. I love her and she's great, but she was, Not playing really well and she was giving up and not just in that game. She was giving up some shit passes and she was not, she didn't have a great touch, her passes were shitty and I was annoyed that it took her that long to take her out, but she knows when it's time and. I think it's hard to criticize her when she's walking around with her gold medal after being coached for six weeks.

Chris:

ninth game. Ninth game. Yeah.

Sarah:

And then the, it, the other thing that she said this, of course I loved because, a reporter had asked her, now you're on your way to the gold medal match, who would you rather face Spain or Brazil? And she said, I don't care. I just need a drink.

Chris:

it might, yeah, it might indicate a problem, but it's also very, it's very honest. It doesn't matter who we play.

Sarah:

I just want a drink. That's all.

Chris:

I would like to have a drink now and you were keeping me from it by asking the dumbest question you could possibly ask.

Sarah:

And lastly, about Emma Hayes, she was interviewed right after the win of the gold medal. And she was asked, I forget the exact question, but basically, what do you really attribute this wind to, or what do you attribute this success to? And she said, love.

Chris:

That's amazing. I love the

Sarah:

in, these girls accepted me. Exactly. The, I came in, these girls accepted me, they showed me love, I showed them love. This is what it's all about. We're doing what we love. So hats off to Emma Hayes. That's all I'll say about soccer, but she's, and those three up front, man, Trinity Rodman. Yeah. And Noah was watching and Noah said, I wonder if she's related to Dennis Rodman. I was like, yeah, Yeah. It's his

Chris:

definitely related.

Sarah:

Yeah.

Chris:

you could tell by the hair.

Sarah:

Yeah, and I was really questioning the hair situation because if I was an opponent of hers, I would have just grabbed onto that shit left and right. I would have been taking those little pigtails and just galloping down the field.

Chris:

yeah, no. like Olivia grabbing that girl by the back of the head, pulling her face open and just tapping

Sarah:

A little tap on the nose.

Chris:

All right, enough soccer talk. Tom Balasheri will be sending us emails about how that's too much. He loves

Sarah:

wah. Wah, wah, wah.

Chris:

Right.

Sarah:

read a post from Tom today on, Facebook about how he was making fun of the breakdancer and then he had to get off the couch and hurt himself and fell up the stairs and said, yeah, Thomas, that's it. Keep making fun of that girl. Who's an Olympian.

Chris:

right. As you go upstairs to polish your not Olympic medals. Perfect. oh, and before we wrap up Weekly Catch Up Corner, I am going to talk about Owen Tucker making the soccer team. So if we flashback a couple of episodes, we were talking about how hard it is to be the parents of a child trying out for a soccer team. Any team, a child trying out for anything when they have one shot M and M style to make the team or not make the team and how challenging that is for everybody. And we were talking about Owen having the opportunity to practice with the team and then maybe retry out in December. And, the good news is the, the resolution of that whole situation is Owen's been working out with that team, since May. Right the coach came up and said, hey, no need to try out. you must just had a bad day on the trial day and, welcome to the team.

Sarah:

Yay.

Chris:

that is a nice story and again, it fills me with rage that we don't take a more, practiced approach to how we evaluate sports and athletes, especially when it's a team sport in, in these situations. And, we don't let these kids try out for two months and then pick it, pick a team.

Sarah:

Amen. Amen. Sister. Amen. You will not hear me

Chris:

it's, I guess it's harder to make money that way because then you have to invest in, you have to invest in kids you maybe don't know.

Sarah:

Yeah. Cause I, I should say the practices that he's been doing, haven't technically been with the team they've been, their coach does, training outside of

Chris:

Oh

Sarah:

actual club. I don't think you need to apologize, but, so most teams don't have this. if he wasn't playing for this particular coach, he just would have not made the team. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.

Chris:

And it highlights something, again, I'm sorry to talk about soccer, but it highlights something about U. S. soccer versus the rest of the world that makes me think, we'll never be, a superpower at any sport, other than the ones that we own completely, because we just don't, we don't have enough opportunities for kids who can't, Hey, we don't have enough opportunities for kids who get anxious in these situations. We don't have enough opportunities for kids who aren't, fit exactly the mold of how we're looking for those soccer players. It's just upsetting to me that a very large segment of kids who are talented, able to do it, willing to participate, just won't ever have the opportunity to do anything beyond their club team.

Sarah:

Yep. It's sad.

Chris:

I would like to see Julie Fowdy get on her fucking high horse about that for a little while instead of making elite athletes play the game they love playing, twice in one week. Suck a dick. Sorry. Stupid. The vibance is wearing off.

Sarah:

But every game I was like, Julie, come on, sister. Jesus Christ. We heard. And at the end she was like, I know, but I'm going to say it again. So fair enough. Whatever.

Chris:

what you want to say. You got the platform, but maybe use it for something that will actually have an impact on the sport.

Sarah:

And the other thing is they, every team was in that situation. Yes. U. S. had to go to, had to go to extra time a few times, but it doesn't matter. Again, these are professional fucking athletes. They should be well equipped to handle this.

Chris:

Now, if it was a situation where we did the Olympics right and you just got drafted into a sport, then I could see maybe taking it a little easier because I saw that on the internets and I would love that. Like a sport draft, like you sign up and you get drafted to do like the equestrian stuff. So they like gear you up and throw you on a horse and let you go out there and see how you do. Yup. Yup.

Sarah:

I love the videos. Of all of the sport failures that are the title of them is this is why I didn't make the Olympics outside of the ones where I feel like someone could have really got hurt outside of those. Like I cry cause they're freaking hysterical.

Chris:

hey, Mrs. Swanson, you're on uneven bars next

Sarah:

All right, cool.

Chris:

jump on up there,

Sarah:

Like the one girl bounce off the uneven bars in one of these videos, like she bounced and bounce back into the other one and then bounce back and then she's just fell. And then she was just like, yeah, I'd fuck. I don't know.

Chris:

the 1 girl was like, I'm going to, I'm going to do a balance beam routine. It took her 20 minutes to get on the balance beam. Just to get on it,

Sarah:

Oh, I

Chris:

not standing on it just to get on it in any way.

Sarah:

Oh shit.

Chris:

I would tune in every day. All right. All

Sarah:

I really enjoyed was like a men's gymnastics team. I think it, I want to say it was Penn State, but I don't know if that's what it was. It was, I'm not sure. It was a gyms, men's. Anyway, they can't fucking do the shit that girls do. That's it. That's all I had to say. And they were just laughing at themselves trying to do it. So that's it.

Chris:

Brilliant. also so much for this being a shorter episode. Just

Sarah:

it is, we're done. We're done. moving on.

Chris:

All right. The growing up gaster story of the week. what I've put in the notes is the endless entertainment of costume jewelry. fancy church gloves and a crinoline slip from 1962.

Sarah:

Yeah, I was confused what crinoline meant. and then I read slip and I was like, Oh, that thing. Grandma Annie's slip that we used to pretend was a bridal gown,

Chris:

So picture skirts in 1962, like they would stick out a little bit. And the way you did that was with one of these like stiff, scratchy, material, like tool that we talked about last time. only stiff. Yeah. and scratchy. And, my grandma had an extra one of those slips that she kept in her closet that we found and thought it was a wedding gown. So we

Sarah:

Yeah. We had a whole collection. We had a collection of dress up things.

Chris:

We had, there were a lot of gloves. She had the best, organized drawer of costume jewelry, like not real jewelry, plastic clip on earrings so that we could put them on.

Sarah:

ons.

Chris:

beads, necklaces. Oh, it was a whole host of things. And for those of you only familiar with, keeping children busy by giving them an iPad, three of us. For the most part, me, you, cousin Kelly entertained ourselves for hours at a time. in the winter, we would get to our grandma's house on Friday. We would stay until late in the day on Sunday. And the entire time we would be playing, pretend in the bedroom. We would be pulling shit out of that weird closet.

Sarah:

The weird closet and the desk that I burned. ha.

Chris:

I don't want to talk about it. It hurts my feelings still.

Sarah:

Oh, that desk was nothing, but I can smell it. Can you smell it? Can you smell the clothes, the closet, the jewelry? Like I can smell it.

Chris:

yes, absolutely. And there were office supplies in this desk from 1962. your grandmother lived in a time capsule. And I didn't realize that was strange until about a year ago, when I started looking around at my house, and I'm like, Ooh, I need to update some of these decorations. And I can see how My grandmother was like I'm not gonna do it like those knickknacks are on the wall And I'm not taking them down that little knickknack dog that somebody gave her Stayed on her wall from the last time she updated I'm guessing right after your dad graduated from high school until I moved in after I graduated from college Everything was always the same stuff, same place, it never moved, it never changed, nothing got moved around. Like, when I moved in there to move into the bedroom to help take care of her, it was the same as it was when your dad moved out to get married. The same.

Sarah:

I don't even remember you living there.

Chris:

For eight seconds, and then your grandmother was like, you don't have to stay here, so then I moved in with David.

Sarah:

oh, okay.

Chris:

And then I broke up with David and moved back in.

Sarah:

That was after Arizona, not after college.

Chris:

right. so far after that. yeah, but it never changed. the coats in the closet were the same, nothing got donated to Goodwill. Very little came in that wasn't already there.

Sarah:

Yep.

Chris:

Very little. there were probably, there was a Kenny Rogers record and a record that the Smurfs sang, and those are the two records that came in during our tenure there.

Sarah:

Yeah.

Chris:

was it. Nothing

Sarah:

record player was the best.

Chris:

Oh my God. And it was in the exact same place it was at the advent of record players. It was not in the living room, but living room adjacent

Sarah:

Yep.

Chris:

there was already things in every possible space in the living room, and they never moved. Ever.

Sarah:

Yeah, I miss that.

Chris:

Man, that couch was comfy. So many good naps on that couch.

Sarah:

I love the recliner. There's

Chris:

The only,

Sarah:

pictures of me sucking my thumb on that recliner.

Chris:

right, we would curl up on that. We were permitted to nap at grandma's house. So that was always nice. so many. Except, the only exception was there was a space for the Christmas tree and there was a very specific rearrangement that happened to accommodate the Christmas tree. The Christmas tree was decorated the same. The Christmas tree never changed. I have bought, just since I've moved into this house, 37 Christmas trees. I have five every year, but I bought 37 Christmas trees. That was the same fake Christmas tree she bought in the sixties that went up every year.

Sarah:

Decorated the same exact way.

Chris:

testament to that generation that never threw anything away. Like she never had the plastic on the furniture, but it was implied if you fucked up that furniture, you were gonna die.

Sarah:

Yeah. 100%. 100%.

Chris:

Don't bring that pop in here if you're gonna spill it. Drink it in the kitchen.

Sarah:

And if you drink it now, you're not going to have any for later.

Chris:

I'm not gonna have any for later. God, I love her.

Sarah:

how long, what's the waiting period, Grandma, on the cans of Pepsi that you have under the sink?

Chris:

How long do we have to keep them?

Sarah:

So you purchased those seven weeks ago. How many more do we have till I can drink one?

Chris:

We bought cookies at the store because you said, Hey, do you guys want cookies? And we were like, yes, I would like cookies. Now the cookies are here. We can't eat them without you saying

Sarah:

them. apparently there's a time period on these things. I don't get it. I don't fucking understand.

Chris:

how? the amount of money that she didn't spend. Is amazing to me. Amazing to me. She went to bingo

Sarah:

on bingo.

Chris:

and she got her hair done at Carla's. And then she went to bingo. And if she won, none of that money ever got spent either. Amazing. Amazing. The lifestyle, these people were willing to live. Can you imagine buying

Sarah:

she went on with a senior senor? Senior senor?

Chris:

senior center. Yes. I have a

Sarah:

find, they would find a statue of Mary everywhere they went and took their picture in front of it.

Chris:

look. Here we are. Here we are in Branson, Missouri, Minnesota, wherever Branson is.

Sarah:

Wherever. Like I fucking know.

Chris:

and here's the priest. Me and Ida H,

Sarah:

Yep.

Chris:

to church. Yeah, I have a whole photo album, of pictures of old ladies I don't know, who went on trips with my grandma.

Sarah:

Yeah. She was having, she was living her best life.

Chris:

And I want to say that at one point, she had, so also, the same generation of people really were dedicated to taking care Of the graves of people that had passed before them, they knew where all the graves were. They knew who was buried in them. They knew where everybody else was planning to be buried. Like having a place to be buried. very key for this generation. I think having a plan, understanding it, knowing that. Seven generations ago, this one in this grave here was related to you. Very key. And our grandfather died, our grandmother would take care of the headstone. So not actually a headstone that came up above ground. What? But,

Sarah:

I was just going to say, she had the, she had a whole kit of shit that had to go to the cemetery with her, including like the edger thing. Like you had to stop the little edger thing around cause she had to get all the nasty dirt around away from the edges. And then she would rub it with baby oil,

Chris:

There was a day

Sarah:

sure was no good for it.

Chris:

no 100 percent definitely not same reason. We don't put it on our skin anymore.

Sarah:

Yeah.

Chris:

that's not how you treat things that are in the sun. but no, you can't talk to her. Couldn't talk to her about it. every all the time. that was a staple. You would go out and

Sarah:

I would like.

Chris:

on the thing. From plastic for fall to plastic for spring

Sarah:

I always say it had to be plastic. Why would you do anything different? I don't understand why you would.

Chris:

and

Sarah:

could take the vase, you could take the vase and put it down in

Chris:

right in, And the nice thing about these particular, Headstone markers is that they were flat on the ground. So that was nice. You didn't have to worry about anyone knocking them over and, they told you where you were gonna be. Like, your name, since my grandma and grandpap were married, they bought his, and her spot was next to him, and then they just put the marker in between. But it already had her name on it.

Sarah:

Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And, I would like you to go up to the cemetery and take a look and see what that grave site looks like now.

Chris:

we're gonna have

Sarah:

I tried after grandma died, like a couple times to go clean it. And I even got mean with the, cemetery people because there was a bunch of goose shit on the headstone the last time I went. Not sure exactly what I expected them to do about it.

Chris:

pressure wash it, I don't know.

Sarah:

I was still sad. That's how long ago it was.

Chris:

for reference, what year did our grandmother die? 2004. Five. Four. Definitely four, because Livvie was born in 2005.

Sarah:

no. Yeah. Yeah. It had to be. Yeah, it had to be. 2004 was, I thought I was in my Bellevue house,

Chris:

You might have been.

Sarah:

but I thought I didn't move in there until 2005.

Chris:

it was late in 2004.

Sarah:

Keep talking. I'm gonna look up her obituary.

Chris:

Ha! there's the, your name is already on the gravestone. The only thing that's missing is, that last date.

Sarah:

2004.

Chris:

I was gonna say December.

Sarah:

No, November 15th, 2000, 2004. Go

Chris:

2004. cause I found out I was pregnant with Olivia, the next month. And I was real sad about that. yeah, but the way I want to tie this back into where we started so we can bring it full circle is morbidly, we had gone to the grave and done the digging and the sanding and the wiping of the gravestone and we had taken the, spring flowers. Out and put the fall flowers in and then we decided that those spring flowers that were on our grandfather's grave were now our bouquet for

Sarah:

Legit, totally forgot about it. Yep.

Chris:

I am wearing for some reason you are wearing Full length gloves

Sarah:

Mhm.

Chris:

this white crinoline slip. We had put I think it may be a napkin on your head Something

Sarah:

You have to find these pictures now.

Chris:

I think I'm looking at the photo album where they are. I'll have to dig through it, but Yes, and we're holding, you are holding a bouquet of graveyard plastic flowers

Sarah:

Flowers. Yep.

Chris:

that we bought at the Fisher Big Wheel in Grindstone, PA.

Sarah:

Oh yeah.

Chris:

Anyway, so that is how we would entertain ourselves. if we were really lucky, we would have to leave the house and go grocery shopping and buy the cookies, but not be able to eat them. And, Somebody would take us to Fisher Big Wheel and give us a dollar, and let us pick any toy we wanted at Fisher Big Wheel for a dollar. So people not familiar, it's like a Kmart, only with a big wheel out front. So there you go. and that would also entertain us. I would get like some kind of irritating, noisy toy.

Sarah:

Of course. Of course.

Chris:

Cause you couldn't buy a book for a dollar.

Sarah:

Ha! Loser.

Chris:

Shut up. Anyway, I am fondly remembering, all of that time spent and it never occurred to me why we were doing that, it never occurred to me that we were going down to spend time with our grandmother because our grandfather had passed away and we didn't want her to be sad. Like it never occurred to me that was like the purpose for us going down on the weekends all the time.

Sarah:

I thought it was cause mommy and daddy wanted to go out.

Chris:

I don't think they went out too much. I remember them going out every once in a while, but not like reunions or whatever, but I don't remember them

Sarah:

when we stayed there. Was when they were going out to like weddings or something.

Chris:

We went out pretty, we were down there pretty frequently. You were little. you were barely even born when we started that. And then we're,

Sarah:

I remember bath time. Bath time at Grandma Annie's was the

Chris:

Oh! I thought we were wrapping up but we are not. Because I want to talk about it too.

Sarah:

Yeah, she would put the, what is it? The draft. She would put that in at the top in this, I smelled so good. So we'd have that and there'd be like extra bubbles and then she'd wash us clean and then let us play a little bit. And then we get out of the tub, but she would lay down a few towels on the floor and she would get out and dry off. And then you had to lay down on your naked little body on the towels and she would put baby powder all over you.

Chris:

best. The best.

Sarah:

I know I smelled so good all the time when I was at grandma Annie's and it was so awesome I think it maybe got to the point where she was like Sarah. You're too old for me to do that anymore

Chris:

Sarah, you're

Sarah:

15. That's got to end

Chris:

Sarah, you drove yourself here. I'm not gonna give you a bath.

Sarah:

But grandma I'm laying down nicely on the towel

Chris:

Just What? Shut up, Alexa.

Sarah:

Siri suck it.

Chris:

Yeah, I mean you would be there and she was like you're like, just do the butt. Just do the butt.

Sarah:

Yeah, then she put it on and she'd give you a little smack

Chris:

It's just Pat and she had a fancy I don't know if this was all old ladies, but she had a fancy container for the powder Like it wasn't just she would throw it. wouldn't just throw it out of the you know The baby powder shaker container salt shaker She would take the powder out of there put it in her special container with her poof and then she would poof it on your butt poof on the butt.

Sarah:

sound dirty but aren't.

Chris:

No, shoot. Your

Sarah:

It

Chris:

god. And she had the caress soap that, I forget if it was pink or white, but that was just for special. That was for fancy.

Sarah:

Yeah. It was wonderful.

Chris:

that because she only took a bath once a week.

Sarah:

that's those.

Chris:

she could buy the fancy soap. She would just she would just rinse off in between because she didn't want to mess her hair up. There was no shower in there when I moved in.

Sarah:

No, no shower. There was never a shower on her side. They had Mommy and daddy put the shower in over on their side when they took over from aunt Leigh and uncle Bruno.

Chris:

oh my gosh. Yeah, and I should mention that our, my grandparents lived in a duplex. they, their brother and sister in law lived in the other half of the duplex, and you could run back and forth between the two. There was like a laundry room that separated them.

Sarah:

was their brother and their sister because that's it was all fucked up how they were all married because it was

Chris:

it

Sarah:

Grandma Annie's brother was Uncle Bruno and Papap Tucker's sister was Aunt Leigh

Chris:

and they married

Sarah:

another group wasn't there but

Chris:

Yeah,

Sarah:

other siblings from the same.

Chris:

Uncle John and Aunt Reen. I don't know. but yes, there

Sarah:

newspaper article on it

Chris:

it's, and I didn't, I was hesitant to bring it up in this context because it sounds like brothers and sisters married each other, but that wasn't what happened. It was, brothers and sisters and brothers and sisters. It's very,

Sarah:

it would be like me marrying Josh

Chris:

I'm gonna throw up in my own mouth. Like that,

Sarah:

just did.

Chris:

could you imagine if we had the same mother in law?

Sarah:

we're going to talk about mental health next, so

Chris:

There we go,

Sarah:

slide right on into that.

Chris:

right into that. Great, yes. we had an amazing childhood with our grandmother and yeah. There were trees climbing. We ran around naked in the summer. We'll revisit it at some point, but there you go. The endless entertainment of costume jewelry and a crinoline slip.

Sarah:

Wonderful.

Chris:

All right. just jumping into mental health, the universe is a funny place and it reminds me of things over and over again. So I logged onto our email to check and see if anyone emailed us with very little hope and a sad face. you guys can fix that by simply sending an email that says hi. That's it. It's all we

Sarah:

are making us sad or

Chris:

anyway So I log in, very little hope of seeing anything worthwhile. And I read a junk email that the Daily Stoic sends to everybody. And it reminds me of things that we talked about earlier, like taking the job because it pays well, because it's supposed to be your dream job, taking the job because this is the next step in the progression without fully aligning that job to your values. again, getting back to being able to understand your values tells you whether or not you should take that job. So just because it's supposed to be your dream job, but the boss is a dick and, it's just not the thing that you're passionate about. Just not the thing that melts your butter. being able to understand your values, drives. Your ability to make a good decision in those kinds of situations. So I'm going to throw it out there again for everybody that finding your values is hard, but we're here to do hard work.

Sarah:

Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna try to. I really want to find something that melts my butter, though.

Chris:

I can't, as somebody said it to me a couple of weeks ago and I was like, I love it. I said it in an interview

Sarah:

too. I do, too. I love it. What melts your butter?

Chris:

I asked a lady, I was like, Hey, here's the range of the things that you can do that I can see in your CV, which one of these things really melts your butter. And she was like, huh?

Sarah:

popcorn.

Chris:

I was like, that doesn't melt the butter. It just, if you put it on, it melts butter. Delicious.

Sarah:

on the cob melts the butter.

Chris:

again, trying to think of values and giving ourselves a little bit of grace for last week. I know you probably did a good job of maintaining your atomic habits of getting out and working out every day, right? You

Sarah:

I did. I did. I continue to work out every day.

Chris:

I went to

Sarah:

No, that's a lie. I took Friday off. I took Friday off.

Chris:

I went to sleep earlier and earlier because I was so goddamn tired. my nutrition was really shitty and I went to yoga one day. I think that I need to Really evaluate what's important because I feel like I am not healthier in any way shape or form than I was When we got back from vacation and in fact, I might be less healthy So I am gonna need to take a little bit of stock.

Sarah:

Yeah, I need to get, I need to get back on the nutrition, wagon. Today I ate beef jerky, Jordan almonds, and Chick fil A.

Chris:

I had a piece

Sarah:

So I might be working out, but it's really doing nothing for me at this point.

Chris:

I was too tired to get out of bed until about seven today 7 30 because I kept hitting this news button And Then I grabbed a piece of beef jerky to eat on the way out to drop my car off to get serviced before I had to race back here and get on and do this recording. it, maybe I need to put one before the other. the thing I wrote down is that we're going to forgive ourselves for, I'm going to forgive myself for having kind of a wild week. I'm not going to give up on, trying to meet this value. I'm not going to give in to being like, oh, I guess I'm not healthy.

Sarah:

No.

Chris:

I'm gonna, I'm gonna jump back to Atomic Habits, and next week I'm gonna talk about how it went. maybe it, here's the other challenge, is that it is again a wild week. I have to drive eight hours, I have to move Olivia in, I have to recover from that, I'm not gonna,

Sarah:

So you're focused on, but you're focused on all of those things. you're, of course you're not going to work out. You just decided you're not going to work out. Do you want to work out? Then set yourself up for it.

Chris:

Oh! Oh my goodness, I see what you've done here.

Sarah:

Yeah. You just said you're not going to work out. All right. you're not going to work out then. Then say you're not going to work out and then you'll figure it out the next week. But I feel like you don't need to do that. I feel like there's other choices you can make in setting yourself up and going into the rest of the week.

Chris:

I think you're probably right. I was able to find a place where I would be able to eat a lovely dinner in Raleigh. I'm sure I can find a place that will let me jump into yoga class while I'm there.

Sarah:

And you also have options. There's, it's amazing in 2024, the amount of things that you can stream on your phone, on a television, on a computer, all of which I know you will have at your disposal.

Chris:

You, that is amazingly right.

Sarah:

tons of options. You don't even have to find a place to go.

Chris:

I

Sarah:

You can roll out of bed. You don't even have to put a fucking bra on just

Chris:

oh no, the,

Sarah:

think you should put on a bra. I'm not saying you shouldn't just saying you don't have to, I suggest wearing a bra. speaking of bra, I'm sorry, I'm going to get us off track for a second. I saw that, the skims nipple bra is back in stock. So there's an actual bra that has nipples on it, which maybe if you've had reconstructive something or I don't know, but I spend extra money to make sure my bra isn't going to show my nipples.

Chris:

it's why I don't wear

Sarah:

that me just being old? is this just an old thing? An old thing is, Hey, let's try to not have your nipples hanging out there all the time.

Chris:

right. I, it's the same thing with wearing pantyhose. I didn't realize we weren't doing that anymore until about three months ago. I was like,

Sarah:

Sorry.

Chris:

what do you do when you dress up for something fancy? And you don't want everyone seeing the sunspots all over your legs. You just let them hang out there. Mine are really pale.

Sarah:

tan. You go get a spray tan. But if your legs are really pale, the odds are the rest of your body is really pale, which means if you're putting on pantyhose, it's not I feel like the only people who wear pantyhose are the royal family and I think that's just required.

Chris:

in me. not anymore because I was like, Oh, we're not doing that. I didn't, no one, I didn't get the memo. I didn't get the nipple men, men,

Sarah:

Yeah, I just got the nipple memo today, but you know what I did with the nipple memo?

Chris:

No.

Sarah:

tossed it. There's certain shit I'm just not gonna jump on board, like stirrup pants, not gonna happen.

Chris:

I already did it.

Sarah:

Nope.

Chris:

it. yeah, no, I'm not gonna buy the nipple bra.

Sarah:

yeah,

Chris:

So there you go.

Sarah:

no.

Chris:

All right. I can work out this week. I can work out this week. And what I am going to do Is

Sarah:

work out this week.

Chris:

Yeah, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna do that by making it attractive, and putting it front and center when I'm in, when I'm in Raleigh. there's no reason not

Sarah:

you could even start now, find

Chris:

out tomorrow.

Sarah:

No, but

Chris:

Oh,

Sarah:

start looking for shit online that you could stream and have that set up and have it ready. So you're not in Raleigh and Oh, I don't feel like looking for something. So make sure you have your workouts picked out and you know exactly what you're going to do on what day at what time.

Chris:

Oh my god, this seems, again, obvious, but it is also so easy for me to be like, I'm not going to work out this week, and still convince myself that I'm doing the right thing. So thank

Sarah:

I will shame you and I will not give you grace next week. Just telling you there's a warning

Chris:

Thank you,

Sarah:

account accountability. Hey,

Chris:

I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

Sarah:

And if you ever accepted my workout, invite that I sent you on your phone, like seven years ago and we, or on your watch when we first got watches, I would be able to see exactly what you do

Chris:

Oh, that would

Sarah:

you even more.

Chris:

mean I would have to wear my watch.

Sarah:

Yeah. Yeah. And that's also like me joining your life 360. do you really, or do you really want me to see how late you are or that you haven't left your house yet?

Chris:

I don't do that anymore.

Sarah:

don't want me to be.

Chris:

don't do that anymore. That much, when convenient for me. now, I think we've revealed to the fans that I might not be the perfect person I've been pretending to be for 20 episodes. Do you think they're surprised? I bet they're

Sarah:

That's a lot. That's a lot.

Chris:

I bet we get emails, yeah.

Sarah:

You're going to have to chew on that one. Did you see my comment that I put on your, on our mental funny bone post that you put out about YouTube?

Chris:

Yes. Yes, I did.

Sarah:

Okay. Just want to make sure that you got the message to check yourself

Chris:

Listen, I think the way to settle this is to have, everyone go to YouTube and watch some of these videos. Then we can see who

Sarah:

and watch both of us, watch both of us equally, because this is what you will see from my sister as I speak.

Chris:

Definitely not

Sarah:

So true. So true. So true. The thing is she just watches me when she watches them. I also watch me and I could definitely see me doing this. So I'm not, yeah, I might really drag a little bit sometimes, but.

Chris:

I do ramble. I get it.

Sarah:

just check your, just check yourself. huh.

Chris:

you check yourself. Okay, good. You check yourself. You shut up.

Sarah:

You check yourself.

Chris:

You shut up. All right. So next week we'll get to hear about what an amazing influence you have been on me in my life and how much I have worked out. And we also get to hear about my emotional wasteland. of, leaving Olivia in Raleigh and coming home by myself.

Sarah:

I think, David's going to be with you, right?

Chris:

David is flying down to help me move all of her stuff in, and then he's flying back Friday morning because he has grass to cut at the cabin. And I'm

Sarah:

am more interested in how that's going to go. I'm more interested in David's critiquing of our storage facility packing. His thoughts on the fan that is no longer. Attached to its cord?

Chris:

mean, I feel like we warned him. I feel, for those of you that might have missed that episode where we pack Olivia up and bring her home, Sarah and I, we got stuck in an elevator for about the most terrifying 18 seconds of my life.

Sarah:

it was definitely at least two hours.

Chris:

It was not. It was less than a minute for sure. Less than 30 seconds, probably. but we were in charge and we had, available to us a Honda Civic to move everything in Olivia's room, dorm room, to a storage unit three blocks away. when we got to Olivia's dorm room, there was nothing packed. not a thing, not a container, nothing. It was like she.

Sarah:

like a makeup bag.

Chris:

It was like she pretended she wasn't moving out until the last possible second, and then she, we packed her stuff up.

Sarah:

Yeah.

Chris:

it will be interesting to see what David thinks of how, I think at the end, you recall it slightly different. I recall us just chucking, just getting things and just throwing them into the unit at the end,

Sarah:

I think you're gonna be surprised. I think you're gonna be surprised. it's not that bad. It might not be a perfect Jenga puzzle like I like to say that it is. But I don't think we were chucking things in. I think the only thing we really threw in was the cord to the fan that broke, which I was like, why are you? Okay. I wasn't really sure why we put the fan or the cord into the storage unit.

Chris:

What are we gonna do with

Sarah:

going to recycle it. I don't know. you money to buy a new one. I felt like we should have gotten rid of the evidence.

Chris:

Put it in the unit, but just get the door closed so no one from the place comes and wonders why we broke their elevator.

Sarah:

Oh no, the guy picked up the cord and gave it to us.

Chris:

Thanks. My god. All right, so yeah, we'll get to, we'll get to hear about that next week. yeah, guys try to do better than me. Try to do almost as good as Sarah. That's it. That's all we got.

Sarah:

We're all gonna have a good week. I can't wait to hear about your week next week.

Chris:

Me too. I'm excited. for the tears. Love you.

Sarah:

For the tears. All right. Love you. Bye

Chris:

Love you. Bye.

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